I have often gone over to the Respect supporters blog (under "blogs by idiots" to the right) to have a look and I have often debated giving something a really good fisking.
These people live in a paranoid fantasy land of double think, which the even the Independent only occasionally manages to reach in its most tin-foil hatted loony days. Basically any action by British or American Militaries is "Illegal" and any action against those militaries is Justified by "Oppression", whether or not it is in clear breach of the Law of armed conflict and condemned by the United Nations. These rules, naturally, only apply to us. There is no attempt to suggest, as there is in the reasonable anti-war camp, that the real problem is with the political leadership of Tony and George and the Boys are just doing their best, as duty demands. No These evil trots actually rejoice in British casualties.
Here is their latest missive on the subject*. It is nothing but a tissue of innuendo and lies.
Simon Basketter exposes how special British units in Iraq are run by the same man who commanded death squads in Northern Ireland. Two of Britain’s most secret military units operating in Iraq are run by a man who ran death squads in Northern Ireland.
British covert military unit the Joint Support Group (JSG) works alongside US covert forces in the aptly named “Task Force Black”.
The Americans like glamorous sounding nick-names. So what?
Earlier this year the JSG was lauded in the Sunday Telegraph for its role in running dozens of double agents in Iraq, many of who had infiltrated the various insurgent groups and militias. The Telegraph claimed the regiment is “one of the coalition’s most effective and deadly weapons in the fight against terror”.
Good
The other unit is the Special Reconnaissance Regiment (SRR). At its creation in 2005, suitably anonymous “military sources” told the media, “We want to place electronic ‘bugs’ close to terrorist leaders such as Osama bin Laden and have agents within the ranks of global terrorist groups.
There's nothing illegal, immoral or fattening about this. Hell it doesn't even give you cancer.
“We got very good at doing this in Northern Ireland in the 1980s and 1990s, and now we want to transfer this capability to the global war on terrorism.” In July 2005, the SRR was involved in the surveillance operation which led to the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes at Stockwell tube station in London.
Um. No it wasn't
SRR officers were apparently engaged in “low-level intelligence behind the scenes” when Jean Charles was shot. According to the “military sources”, this was the first time the new regiment had been engaged in an operation.
This "low-level intelligence, behind the scenes" is just a policeman ringing a soldier and asking "hey, Pete. Do you know anything about this chap we're watching?"... "Sure, Dave. I'll send what we've got over." It certainly isn't "active involvement" whatever that means or SAS hit-squads roaming London shooting plumbers. That's the police's job and they guard it jealously.
In December that year two British soldiers in the SRR were arrested by police in Iraq. Who were the two men and what were they doing when they were seized outside al-Jamiat police station in Basra?
SRR chaps doing their job perhaps?
What prompted British soldiers to smash down the wall of the station and demolish several buildings inside the compound in the operation to snatch them back?
The operation to get them back, perchance?
At the request of the MoD, the British media obscured the faces of the two captured men (pictured above). They had been sitting in a car outside the police station in Arabic dress. They were heavily armed and had an impressive array of surveillance equipment with them. It was claimed at the time that the two undercover men had opened fire when they were stopped at a police roadblock, killing at least one police officer. They were part of the Britain’s undercover war in Iraq.
Sounds like they were doing a difficult and dangerous job. I'm glad we have men like these two serving our country. The Iraqi police are in the pocket of several nasty, violent millennial militias. Happy neighbourhood bobbies they certainly are not. In fact the Iraqi police have been implicated in a number of kidnappings and extra-judicial murders. Naturally when these murders are discussed by the anti-war media they are by "British-Trained". In this piece of pinko nonsense, as they are victims of "Illegal aggeression" they are "Dixon of dock-green" in a shemagh.
Both the JSG and the SRR are run by Brigadier Gordon Kerr.
So What?
Kerr’s career has taken him to troublespots all over the world. An officer in the Gordon Highlanders, he served briefly in Cyprus before his first posting in Northern Ireland in 1972.
Tony Blair appointed Kerr to head up military intelligence in Iraq in 2003 – just two weeks after an inquiry into collusion with paramilitaries in Northern Ireland sent a file about Kerr to the director of public prosecutions.
With nothing proved against him.
Kerr is the most senior serving intelligence officer in the army and has been rewarded with both an OBE and the queen’s gallantry medal.
My word, he sounds like a good chap to have in a scrap...
In Iraq Kerr applies the “methods developed on the mean streets of Ulster during the Troubles”, as the Sunday Telegraph excitedly relates. The government has repeatedly claimed that Northern Ireland provides the blueprint for the British army’s operations in Iraq.
Yup. The British Military never stops learning. Unlike socialists who have been spewing the same bile for a century and a half and what has it got them (apart from bloody hands from 100,000,000 deaths that is?)
From the late 1970s, various British governments backed a secret unit of the army, the Force Research Unit (FRU), which, along with the special branch of the Royal Ulster Constabulary, supplied names, addresses and photographs of Catholic targets to Loyalist paramilitaries. The FRU was led by Gordon Kerr. When Kerr became the FRU’s commander in 1986, the 100-strong squad adopted a more aggressive approach to the running of informers. The key person supplying information was British army agent Brian Nelson. He infiltrated the Ulster Defence Association (UDA), the biggest Loyalist paramilitary group. His information was responsible for the murder of at least 30 Catholics. These included many who had no connection to the IRA, including the Belfast solicitor Pat Finucane who was murdered in 1989 by the UDA’s death squad, the Ulster Freedom Fighters.
The FRU also obtained “restriction orders” from other British security and military units whereby the FRU would withdraw from an area to allow Kerr’s UDA agents to get in and out without hindrance. Drawing on his sources in British intelligence, Nelson passed on the names and addresses of apparent IRA activists to the UDA, whose gunmen would promptly go out and “execute” the suspects. Nelson’s activities were regularly discussed at London meetings of the. Joint Intelligence Committee. This was chaired by then Tory prime minister Margaret Thatcher. In January 1992 Nelson agreed to plead guilty to five conspiracies to murder, and at least four sectarian murder charges against him were dropped.
This appears broadly true. There appears to have been collusion - with operatives in the IRA too. Mostly to protect sources, especially
steak-knife. For a more balanced view the BBC have covered this case, and if you're really interested, the Stevens inquiry is
here Much of the operations against the IRA were conducted in a legal Grey Area, but I for one am glad that there were people prepared to risk all to try and defeat the great terrorist threat of the day. Unfortunately sometimes soldiers and policemen stepped over the line of what is acceptable. People have been punished for transgressions. If the media, crawling all over that little war can only come up with this, then I would say with confidence that "British forces, for the most part acted within the law", just as for the most part they are acting within the law in Iraq at present.
Recent developments in Ulster appear to point to the view that democracy and the rule of Law won in the end, because of, not despite robust action by the security services. Where wrong-doing has been proved, then let the courts decide who's in the right: as they did.
In a bizarre court case lasting less than a day, Nelson’s real role was effectively covered up. After a moving tribute to his sterling work for the British army from an anonymous colonel, Nelson got ten years. Speaking from behind a security screen the colonel stressed the lives Nelson had allegedly “saved”. Nelson was released after serving less than half his sentence, and spent the rest of his life under a false identity. The anonymous colonel was Gordon Kerr. Beyond Gordon Kerr, the Special Reconnaissance Regiment includes at least 100 other veterans of Britain’s dirty war in Northern Ireland.
Just as the Troubles have excused a number of IRA killers their crimes, so the other side gets an easy ride of the justice train, all in the name of letting bygones be bygones. It's called a peace process. The Troubles in Ulster are now (mostly) history, and there is little to be gained by muck-raking. Are you surprised that the soldiers involved are now serving elsewhere in Britain's overstretched little army?
How much does Tony Blair know about what they are up to?
Probably quite a lot more than you,
Neil, you commie prickI think what's at issue here is that Innuendo about ancient history is being used to suggest that British Troops are doing anything illegal by conducting surveillance against organisations (the Iraqi Police, insurgent groups) who are less than friendly to British operations in Iraq. Operations which I hasten to add, at the risk of repeating myself, that are being conducted at the behest and direct request of the legitimately and democratically elected Government of Iraq, (a government elected by a far higher turnout than our own) and often in support of the Iraqi army, following operations conducted to support and implement a number of UN Resolutions.
You may think that the invasion of Iraq was illegal. That is a reasonable, if to my mind incorrect, position to hold. It does not follow that British troops are, by their presence, war criminals. Unless of course you think that all British troops are war criminals, in which case you're laughable and beneath contempt.
But we already knew that about "Respect", didn't we?
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